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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby Alpina » Thu 27. Jan 2011 21:51

bimmer wrote:
Αυτό ήταν πολύ καλό!!


hehe,, google translate

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Ξέρεις Magnus,, χειροποίητες νήμα,,,,,,, :mrgreen:
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby SteiniDJ » Fri 28. Jan 2011 10:20

I've got a question which might seem strange/stupid to some and perfectly normal to others (they've come to expect this from me, I guess). You're doing amazing work to restore a unique piece of motorsport- and auto history. How come you decided to go with a engine from a later model? I realize that the stock S14 (which, if I remember correctly, arrived without any extensive modifications in the Europameister) might not be as fun as a roaring 6-cyl hellbent on ravaging the roads, but to me it feels like the heart of the car and an integral part of its legacy.

Look at Mázi. Much like yourself, he's restoring an E30 M3. Unlike you, with no offense intended towards Mázi or his car, he's not restoring a unique model so going along with a different engine isn't that big of a deal. I've always felt that a car like this should be kept in its original state, especially when so much work is being put into making it look the part. It makes me wonder why one shouldn't go all the way.

Anyways, I'm sorry for my rant. The car isn't mine and neither is the project. It seems like I can find a bit of shade even on the sun. I think the most important part here is that you're actually doing this (and doing it well, at that) and not daydreaming about it. Everybody here wins, S14 or not!

/Flamesuit On, I guess. :alien:
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby GunniT » Fri 28. Jan 2011 13:04

SteiniDJ wrote:I've got a question which might seem strange/stupid to some and perfectly normal to others (they've come to expect this from me, I guess). You're doing amazing work to restore a unique piece of motorsport- and auto history. How come you decided to go with a engine from a later model? I realize that the stock S14 (which, if I remember correctly, arrived without any extensive modifications in the Europameister) might not be as fun as a roaring 6-cyl hellbent on ravaging the roads, but to me it feels like the heart of the car and an integral part of its legacy.

Look at Mázi. Much like yourself, he's restoring an E30 M3. Unlike you, with no offense intended towards Mázi or his car, he's not restoring a unique model so going along with a different engine isn't that big of a deal. I've always felt that a car like this should be kept in its original state, especially when so much work is being put into making it look the part. It makes me wonder why one shouldn't go all the way.

Anyways, I'm sorry for my rant. The car isn't mine and neither is the project. It seems like I can find a bit of shade even on the sun. I think the most important part here is that you're actually doing this (and doing it well, at that) and not daydreaming about it. Everybody here wins, S14 or not!

/Flamesuit On, I guess. :alien:


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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby SteiniDJ » Fri 28. Jan 2011 13:46

Jæja, snilld ef hann nennir að swappa og swappa og swappa! :lol:
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby tinni77 » Fri 28. Jan 2011 13:59

Það verður líka lítið eftir original eftir í þessum bíl.. :)
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby SteiniDJ » Fri 28. Jan 2011 14:02

tinni77 wrote:Það verður líka lítið eftir original eftir í þessum bíl.. :)


Ertu þá að tala um body parta sem verið er að skipta um? Ég er að tala um original hluti sem komu á Europameister/M3, varðar mig ekkert hvort það sé notað eða nýtt! :)
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby Jón Ragnar » Fri 28. Jan 2011 14:05

Þetta skiptir engu

E30 M3 eru ekki numbers matching eins og gamlir camaroar

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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby SteiniDJ » Fri 28. Jan 2011 14:06

John Rogers wrote:Þetta skiptir engu

E30 M3 eru ekki numbers matching eins og gamlir camaroar


Held nú að Europameister sé númeraður?
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby Jón Ragnar » Fri 28. Jan 2011 14:08

SteiniDJ wrote:
John Rogers wrote:Þetta skiptir engu

E30 M3 eru ekki numbers matching eins og gamlir camaroar


Held nú að Europameister sé númeraður?



Er þetta nú ekki í usa þannig að mótor og body passar saman?

Meinti eitthvað þannig

Plús að S54 M3 færi á meira en orginal held ég


:edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_matching

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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby SteiniDJ » Fri 28. Jan 2011 14:12

John Rogers wrote:
SteiniDJ wrote:
John Rogers wrote:Þetta skiptir engu

E30 M3 eru ekki numbers matching eins og gamlir camaroar


Held nú að Europameister sé númeraður?



Er þetta nú ekki í usa þannig að mótor og body passar saman?

Meinti eitthvað þannig

Plús að S54 M3 færi á meira en orginal held ég


:edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_matching


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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby Jón Ragnar » Fri 28. Jan 2011 14:20

Menn í usa eru mjög heitir fyrir matching numbers bílum allavega

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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby SteiniDJ » Fri 28. Jan 2011 15:03

John Rogers wrote:Menn í usa eru mjög heitir fyrir matching numbers bílum allavega


Mér er svosem sama um það, skil þetta fyrirbæri ekki alveg. :)
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby Zorba » Fri 28. Jan 2011 16:14

SteiniDJ wrote:I've got a question which might seem strange/stupid to some and perfectly normal to others (they've come to expect this from me, I guess). You're doing amazing work to restore a unique piece of motorsport- and auto history. How come you decided to go with a engine from a later model? I realize that the stock S14 (which, if I remember correctly, arrived without any extensive modifications in the Europameister) might not be as fun as a roaring 6-cyl hellbent on ravaging the roads, but to me it feels like the heart of the car and an integral part of its legacy.

Look at Mázi. Much like yourself, he's restoring an E30 M3. Unlike you, with no offense intended towards Mázi or his car, he's not restoring a unique model so going along with a different engine isn't that big of a deal. I've always felt that a car like this should be kept in its original state, especially when so much work is being put into making it look the part. It makes me wonder why one shouldn't go all the way.

Anyways, I'm sorry for my rant. The car isn't mine and neither is the project. It seems like I can find a bit of shade even on the sun. I think the most important part here is that you're actually doing this (and doing it well, at that) and not daydreaming about it. Everybody here wins, S14 or not!

/Flamesuit On, I guess. :alien:



I very much agree with you and my intentions is to be able to have the car original. Hence i will rebuild the original engine and keep it(will not sell it).
I was going to build a stronger engine but whatever you do to the S14 it can not be justified financially.
Therefore my plan is to keep the engine and do an S54 conversion in a way that i can always go back to the original.
To be honnest though the E30 M3 always needed more power.
And by doing it the way i am planning i will not have to modifie anything on the car as everything bolts on.
Dont get me wrong ...i love the S14 the way it is. But to get the extra 50-80 bhp from a rebuild it would cost more than doing an S54 conversion.
And in my eyes the S54 is the new S14 the way in performs and delivers.
I have looked deeply into this and i think this is the best solution. If we ever decide to sell the car we can have it with both options. Original engine or S54. So matching numbers are there.
All it will need will be a few hours to swap the engine-gearbox and the tacho. The rest will be original.
I hope this makes sense!
As far as originality goes the only thing that may not stay the same is the seats as i will either go for SRD or Performance BMW recaros.
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby bimmer » Fri 28. Jan 2011 16:38

I have to warn you Magnus - SteiniDJ's father is the chief of the Stock Polizei.
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Re: E30 M3 Europa(RUST)Meister

Postby IvanAnders » Fri 28. Jan 2011 16:43

Zorba wrote:i love the S14 the way it is. But to get the extra 50-80 bhp from a rebuild it would cost more than doing an S54 conversion.


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