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 Post subject: 9/11/01
PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 13:24 
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Hljóðið þarna er svakalegt




Viðbrögð fólksins þarna er einnig svakalegt, maður getur ekki ýmindað sér að vera þarna á staðnum




og svo hinn turninn




var að horfa á heimildarmynd um WTC og sá þar myndbrot af þessu, alveg svakalegt


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PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 14:46 
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ótrúlegt að sjá þetta,

þetta er gott líka


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PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 14:48 
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Ég fæ ennþá í magann við að horfa á þetta. :shock:

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Hugsiði ykkur hvað það hefur verið skelfilegt að vera efst uppi Empire State og horfa á þetta :shock:

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Horfði á heimildarmynd um daginn sem heitir "Falling Man" - fjallar um
þessa mynd:
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Þeir voru semsagt að reyna að finna út hver þetta væri.

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einsog þið heyrið í videoinu sem ég póstaði þá verður algjör hystería á jörðinni, get ekki ímyndað mér hvað þessi maður hefur hugsað, kannski var hann einn af þeim sem voru staðsettir fyrir ofan þann punkt sem vélin lenti því þær "köttuðu" á lyfturnar og stigana fyrir allar hæðir að ofan og enginn möguleiki fyrir þá sem voru á efstu hæðunum að fljúga


og í þessari mynd sem ég horfði á "History Channel - The World Trade Center, Rise and Fall of an American Icon" þá var þetta magnað, einsog allt hafi bara molnað, svakalega margir sem létust í byggingunum sem var ekki hægt að finna eða bera kennsl á ekki nema nokkur bein sem þurfti að DNA greina til að finna út hver væri hvað

bera saman td Oklahoma bygginguna og þetta, hjá oklahoma þá gastu allavega séð td skrifborð og önnur húsgögn sem sagði til um að þarna hefðu verið skrifstofur og annað en í WTC þá bara einsog allt hafi bara molnað og orðið að engu


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PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 22:06 
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Einhvern daginn glápti ég á samsærismynd tengt þessu, ég var nú nokkuð sannfærður um að þetta væri "inside djobb" Sérstaklega hvernig húsið við hliðina á hrundi, alveg bókað að það var sprengt.

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PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 22:12 
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http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm


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PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 22:32 
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IceDev wrote:
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm


og þetta sannfærir okkur um að 911 var ekki insidejob?

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Ég kýs að taka Occam's razor hugsunarfræði á bakvið þetta. Hún er yfirleitt ansi góð


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IceDev wrote:
Ég kýs að taka Occam's razor hugsunarfræði á bakvið þetta. Hún er yfirleitt ansi góð



ok lásí c/p , en samt puntur(punktar):

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According to wikipedia “Occam's razor (sometimes spelled Ockham's razor) is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar William of Ockham. The principle states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory……This is often paraphrased as "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the right one," or alternately, "we should not assert that for which we do not have some proof." In other words, when multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities……Thus, if two theories are equally accurate and neither appears more probable than the other, the simple one is to be preferred over the complicated one, because simplicity is practical.”
This theory is often used by 9-11 “Debunkers” as the be all and end all of arguments to support their case. Usually postulating that a government plot to attack and kill it’s own people is so impossible and complicated that it couldn’t possibly be true. However, “Resorting to the importance of Occam's Razor within the limits of inductive arguments still leaves open problems of formulation; "the simplest explanation tends to be the best" is a hardly formally precise statement and cannot be used, as is, to rigorously compare two competing hypotheses.” and “Albert Einstein probably had this in mind when he wrote in 1933 that "The supreme goal of all theory is to make the irreducible basic elements as simple and as few as possible without having to surrender the adequate representation of a single datum of experience" often paraphrased as "Theories should be as simple as possible, but no simpler." It often happens that the best explanation is much more complicated than the simplest possible explanation because its postulations amount to less of an improbability. Thus the popular rephrasing of the razor - that "the simplest explanation is the best one" - fails to capture the gist of the reason behind it, in that it conflates a rigorous notion of simplicity and ease of human comprehension. The two are obviously correlated, but hardly equivalent.”
So keeping this in mind, let’s reduce the elements of some 9-11 Truth theories and try to apply Occam’s Razor, assuming two theories (Official theory and 9-11 Truth theory) are equally possible. Try to imagine you’re in school 10 plus years ago, and each scenario is completely hypothetical, unrelated and new to you. Pretend your teacher is posing these questions in a multiple choice pop-quiz. Let’s start with the most observable element of 9-11, the buildings’ collapse.

1.   3 steel and concrete skyscrapers collapse at freefall speed, almost perfectly symmetrical, into their own footprints.

A)   Airplane impact + Fire destroys 2 buildings (first time in history), Fire alone destroys the third building (also first time in history).

B)   Pre-planted demolitions take out the buildings floor by floor.

2.   19 hijackers on the terrorist watch lists enter the U.S.A. , are flagged as           terrorists,  allowed entry regardless (customs agent being told they were part of a training exercise), get drivers licenses (listing their address as an army base) and flight training in the U.S.

A)   Through “cock-ups”, lack of communication between departments                     and  ignored intelligence + memos, they somehow slipped through the cracks.

B)   They were knowingly allowed into the country.

3.   The Pentagon is struck by something. 80-odd cameras are pointing at it. All video except 4 frames from 1 camera is confiscated and never shown to the public for more than 6 years.

A)   Nothing of interest on the tapes.

B)   Something to hide on the tapes.


4.   Norman Mineta testified before Congress that VP Dick Cheney ordered a       stand-down for intercepting the flight heading to the Pentagon.

A)   He was hoping the hijacked plane would un-hijack itself.

B)   He wanted the attack to succeed.

5.   The FBI, who is normally responsible for investigating federal crimes and  indicting those believed to be responsible for said crimes, do not accuse or indict Osama bin Laden for the 9-11 attacks.

A)   They have evidence he was responsible for 9-11

B)   They have NO evidence he was responsible for 9-11


Ok I could go on but let’s stop here. This is the method  where Occam’s Razor is applicable, not the overall master-plan. Otherwise, to say that “criminal elements that have infiltrated the government carried out an attack against their own people to further their global agenda” is too complicated to be possible, is like saying “The Universe revolves around the Earth because anything else is too complicated”.  This is where the Razor fails logic. If you answered B to ONE of these questions then we need a new investigation into the events surrounding 9-11. If you didn’t, put on the “Dunce” cap and go sit in the corner.

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PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 23:20 
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Tja, alltaf gaman að samsæriskenningum - en það er bara ekki séns í þessu tilfelli. Við erum að tala um operation sem er svo massíft og svo siðferðislega rangt að það er ekki fræðilegur að þú safnir saman nógu mikið af fólki sem er bæði til í þetta og þegir svo í framhaldinu. Enn síður að þú fáir fólk til að fórna lífi sínu með því að fljúga á turn eða tvo, það þarf heilaþvott frá barnæsku í slíkar æfingar - þarf enginn að segja mér að USA eigi bunka af slíku liði til að nota við hentug tækifæri.

Ef þið teljið að yfirvöld þarna séu svo öflug/brengluð að þeim takist að koma slíku í gegn vil ég minna á að Monica Lewinsky tókst næstum að fella sitjandi forseta með því að einu að geyma kjól með nokkrum slettum í frystikistunni. Fyrir allt það endalausa cover up sem þyrfti í 9/11 þá væri hægt að redda Monicu málinu með vinstri og bjarga Watergate eftir hádegi.


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PostPosted: Sat 18. Sep 2010 23:21 
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Ugh....

Ég ætla pent að afþakka mig úr þessu. Hef engan áhuga á að reyna að sannfæra 9/11 samsæriskenningarmenn um ruglið í þeim.


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