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Author:  AronT1 [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 21:10 ]
Post subject:  Kælivökvi

Jæja nú er að fara frysta allverulega..

Er með M50.. blár, rauður eða grænn?

Author:  gardara [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 21:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

grænn frá N1...

Það er amk það sem umboðið notar

Author:  rockstone [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 22:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

aldrei rauðann á bmw

Author:  thorsteinarg [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 22:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

Afhverju ekki ?

Author:  rockstone [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 22:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

thorsteinarg wrote:
Afhverju ekki ?


Því það á að vera grænblár sem BMW styður, rauður kælivökvi fer ekki á bmw. Þannig er það bara, þ+o einhverjum sem veit það ekki dettur í hug að setja rauðann, þá myndi ég flusha kerfið og setja það sem á að vera í staðinn.

Author:  thorsteinarg [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 22:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

Allright, þá veit ég það :thup:

Author:  sosupabbi [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 23:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

rockstone wrote:
thorsteinarg wrote:
Afhverju ekki ?


Því það á að vera grænblár sem BMW styður, rauður kælivökvi fer ekki á bmw. Þannig er það bara, þ+o einhverjum sem veit það ekki dettur í hug að setja rauðann, þá myndi ég flusha kerfið og setja það sem á að vera í staðinn.

Ég setti nú reyndar rauðan á minn fyrir ári síðan og flushaði kerfið á undan og þykir mér gaman að tilkynna enginn vandamál hingaðtil, þetta er reyndar 22 ára gamall m70 mótor ekinn ekki nema 247, hef gert þetta á mínum bílum einfaldlega afþví að mér finnst ekkert gaman að skipta um kælivökva, betra að gera það á fimm ára fresti frekar en 2 ára, en ef einhver getur fært rök fyrir því að bmw verði bara að fá grænan þá skal ég glaður hlusta á þau("afþví bmw segja það er ekki tekið með") og skipta mínum út hið snarasta.

Author:  ömmudriver [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 23:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

Er það ekki vegna tæringar, s.s. rauði vökvinn er ekki með eins mikla tæringarvörn og sá græni?

Author:  sosupabbi [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 23:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

ömmudriver wrote:
Er það ekki vegna tæringar, s.s. rauði vökvinn er ekki með eins mikla tæringarvörn og sá græni?

Getur verið, en nú á að vera tæringarvörn í öllum frostlegi, veit að ef grænn blandast t.d við aðra þá missa báðir tæringarvörnina sem er ekki góður hlutur en ég sé ekki afhverju rauður ætti ekki að virka ef hann er notaður einn og sér þaes ekki til blands útí grænan eða öfugt.

Author:  sh4rk [ Wed 06. Nov 2013 23:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

ömmudriver wrote:
Er það ekki vegna tæringar, s.s. rauði vökvinn er ekki með eins mikla tæringarvörn og sá græni?


Mér finnst það hæpið því að rauði endist í 5 ár en græni í 2 ár

Author:  Angelic0- [ Thu 07. Nov 2013 00:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

sh4rk wrote:
ömmudriver wrote:
Er það ekki vegna tæringar, s.s. rauði vökvinn er ekki með eins mikla tæringarvörn og sá græni?


Mér finnst það hæpið því að rauði endist í 5 ár en græni í 2 ár


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Author:  Angelic0- [ Thu 07. Nov 2013 00:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

Minnir að þetta hafi verið vegna Nikasil / Alusil eitthvað... tæringarvörnin í Glycol blabla eitthvað virkar ekki með slívunum blabla.... man samt ekki alveg hvað þetta var...

Slapi á eftir að koma með eitthvað mega comment ábyggilega... og segja ykkur að ef að þið festið þotuhreyfil á þakið á E9 komist þið hraðar en hljóðið....

Author:  gardara [ Thu 07. Nov 2013 00:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

Approved anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents
With the protection of the environment in mind, BMW has been filling all of its vehicles with nitrite- and amino-free
anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents since mid-1986 as standard practice.
The use of anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents that contain nitrites and amines is no longer permissible.
Trade name BMW part number Container size
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 454 1.5-litre can
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 455 60-litre barrel
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 456 205-litre barrel
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 755 Tanker (truck)
Trade name Manufacturer/Supplier
Addinol Antifreeze Super Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
Aral Antifreeze Extra Aral AG
AVIA Antifreeze APN AVIA Mineralöl AG
BMW Antifreeze BMW AG
BP anti-frost X 2270A BP Schmierstoff GmbH, Hamburg
Caltex CX Engine Coolant Caltex
Castrol ANIT-FREEZE NF Castrol International
Fridex G48 Velvena s.a.
Glacelf Plus Total
GlycoShell Shell International
Glyco Star Bremin Mineralöl GmbH & Co.
Glysantin G48-24 Engine Coolant UNICO Ltd.
Glysantin Protect Plus / G48 BASF
GUSOFROST LV 505 Chemische Industrielle Gesellschaft
Mobil Frostschutz 600 Mobil Schmierstoff GmbH
Havoline AFC (BD04) ChevronTexaco/Arteco
Mobil Frostschutz 600 ExxonMobil
OMV Kühlerfrostschutz OMV AG
Total Thermofreeze Plus Total


1.0 Requirements concerning engine coolant
Pure water is unsuitable as a coolant not just because of the lack of protection against freezing-up. Good functioning of the cooling system is only guaranteed once a suitable anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agent, or antifreeze for short, has been added.
The cooling system of BMW vehicles must only be filled with the anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents approved for this purpose. The filling and maintenance instructions to be found in the Repair Instructions and operating
instructions must be observed. Antifreeze agents must meet the following requirements:
- They must guarantee operability of the cooling system in winter (anti-freezing protection by lowering the freezing point) and in summer (prevent boiling and boiling over of the coolant).
- They must protect metal components that come into contact with the coolant (grey cast iron, steel, aluminium alloy, brass, copper and solder) against corrosion and cavitation.
- They must be neutral with respect to rubber and plastic parts in the coolant circuit.
- They must guarantee the consistency of the above-mentioned quality criteria.
To create these coolant properties, the anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents must be mixed to the correct ratio with water.
Prescribed mixture for coolant:
- 50 % antifreeze for anti-freezing protection down to -38 °C
The original coolant mixture poured into the cooling system at the factory has this antifreeze-to-water ratio.
If the proportion of antifreeze is less than 40 % (i.e. the water content is higher than 60 %), not only the degree of protection against freezing, but also protection against corrosion is reduced. When the water content is too high, this can lead to premature overheating in very hot weather or hot climates and as a consequence lead to coolant being ejected out of the system and damage to the engine through overheating. This means that it is essential that an anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agent is added even in the tropics. Too high a concentration, more than 55 %, leads to deterioration of the cooling properties (heat transfer) and protection against freezing-up is modified in the opposite direction, i.e. it also deteriorates. The amounts of antifreeze required for providing protection against freezing-up are stated as percentage figures on the containers. However, it is not only necessary to comply with the mixture ratio specified; the minimum requirements for the quality of the water must also be adhered to:
• Appearance: colourless, clear
• Sediment, without suspended matter
• pH value: 6.5-8.0
• Total hardness, max.: 20° dH (German hardness grade) or in new measuring unit:
• Total hardness, max.: 3.6 mmol Ca 2+/ ltr.
• Chloride content: max. 100 mg/ltr.
• Sulphate content: max. 100 mg/ltr.
Potable tap water usually fulfils these requirements. Local water utilities can provide information about the quality of the water they supply. If necessary, the water must be treated (e.g. softened) or distilled water must be used.
The quality of regenerated sea water (as found in the Gulf states) is inadequate! SBS

4.0 Coolant additives
BMW does not approve the use of coolant additives that e.g. provide additional protection against corrosion or are aimed at sealing hairline cracks.
Due to the poorer transfer of heat from the cylinder head to the coolant, this can lead to heat accumulation and hot spots , which in turn can lead to cylinder head gaskets burning through and cracking of the cylinder head .
We cannot provide warranty for any consequences and effects the use of such additives may have.

2.0 Change interval, changing and testing coolant, disposal, cleaning the cooling system Change interval, changing and testing coolant
Regular checks of the coolant composition as part of Inspection I and II. As the anti-corrosion characteristics of the coolant decrease with time, the change interval of 4 years (3 years for M-Power vehicles) must be observed. The antifreeze concentration in the coolant must be checked each year before the cold season begins. The composition of the coolant must also be checked after the coolant level has been topped up. An areometer or densimeter (antifreeze tester) is required for setting and checking the concentration. It is permissible to mix various brands of the approved agents.
Ongoing technical development means that the coolant does not need to be changed on the vehicles listed below.
- E65 from 09/2003
- E60, all models since market introduction
- E85 since market introduction
- Vehicles with Service interval indicator (SIA) with petrol engines from 03/2003
- Vehicles with Service interval indicator (SIA) with diesel engines from 09/2003
- M vehicles from 09/2003
Disposal
The instructions laid down in the safety data sheets published by the manufacturers of anti-freezing and anticorrosive agents and the statutory regulations of the individual countries must be complied with.
Cleaning the cooling system
If the cooling system is soiled, e.g. by oil residue etc., it may be necessary to clean the system with a suitable cleaner. SBS

Author:  thorsteinarg [ Thu 07. Nov 2013 01:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

gardara wrote:
Approved anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents
With the protection of the environment in mind, BMW has been filling all of its vehicles with nitrite- and amino-free
anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents since mid-1986 as standard practice.
The use of anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents that contain nitrites and amines is no longer permissible.
Trade name BMW part number Container size
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 454 1.5-litre can
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 455 60-litre barrel
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 456 205-litre barrel
BMW Antifreeze 81 22 9 407 755 Tanker (truck)
Trade name Manufacturer/Supplier
Addinol Antifreeze Super Addinol Lube Oil GmbH
Aral Antifreeze Extra Aral AG
AVIA Antifreeze APN AVIA Mineralöl AG
BMW Antifreeze BMW AG
BP anti-frost X 2270A BP Schmierstoff GmbH, Hamburg
Caltex CX Engine Coolant Caltex
Castrol ANIT-FREEZE NF Castrol International
Fridex G48 Velvena s.a.
Glacelf Plus Total
GlycoShell Shell International
Glyco Star Bremin Mineralöl GmbH & Co.
Glysantin G48-24 Engine Coolant UNICO Ltd.
Glysantin Protect Plus / G48 BASF
GUSOFROST LV 505 Chemische Industrielle Gesellschaft
Mobil Frostschutz 600 Mobil Schmierstoff GmbH
Havoline AFC (BD04) ChevronTexaco/Arteco
Mobil Frostschutz 600 ExxonMobil
OMV Kühlerfrostschutz OMV AG
Total Thermofreeze Plus Total


1.0 Requirements concerning engine coolant
Pure water is unsuitable as a coolant not just because of the lack of protection against freezing-up. Good functioning of the cooling system is only guaranteed once a suitable anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agent, or antifreeze for short, has been added.
The cooling system of BMW vehicles must only be filled with the anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents approved for this purpose. The filling and maintenance instructions to be found in the Repair Instructions and operating
instructions must be observed. Antifreeze agents must meet the following requirements:
- They must guarantee operability of the cooling system in winter (anti-freezing protection by lowering the freezing point) and in summer (prevent boiling and boiling over of the coolant).
- They must protect metal components that come into contact with the coolant (grey cast iron, steel, aluminium alloy, brass, copper and solder) against corrosion and cavitation.
- They must be neutral with respect to rubber and plastic parts in the coolant circuit.
- They must guarantee the consistency of the above-mentioned quality criteria.
To create these coolant properties, the anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agents must be mixed to the correct ratio with water.
Prescribed mixture for coolant:
- 50 % antifreeze for anti-freezing protection down to -38 °C
The original coolant mixture poured into the cooling system at the factory has this antifreeze-to-water ratio.
If the proportion of antifreeze is less than 40 % (i.e. the water content is higher than 60 %), not only the degree of protection against freezing, but also protection against corrosion is reduced. When the water content is too high, this can lead to premature overheating in very hot weather or hot climates and as a consequence lead to coolant being ejected out of the system and damage to the engine through overheating. This means that it is essential that an anti-freezing and anti-corrosive agent is added even in the tropics. Too high a concentration, more than 55 %, leads to deterioration of the cooling properties (heat transfer) and protection against freezing-up is modified in the opposite direction, i.e. it also deteriorates. The amounts of antifreeze required for providing protection against freezing-up are stated as percentage figures on the containers. However, it is not only necessary to comply with the mixture ratio specified; the minimum requirements for the quality of the water must also be adhered to:
• Appearance: colourless, clear
• Sediment, without suspended matter
• pH value: 6.5-8.0
• Total hardness, max.: 20° dH (German hardness grade) or in new measuring unit:
• Total hardness, max.: 3.6 mmol Ca 2+/ ltr.
• Chloride content: max. 100 mg/ltr.
• Sulphate content: max. 100 mg/ltr.
Potable tap water usually fulfils these requirements. Local water utilities can provide information about the quality of the water they supply. If necessary, the water must be treated (e.g. softened) or distilled water must be used.
The quality of regenerated sea water (as found in the Gulf states) is inadequate! SBS

4.0 Coolant additives
BMW does not approve the use of coolant additives that e.g. provide additional protection against corrosion or are aimed at sealing hairline cracks.
Due to the poorer transfer of heat from the cylinder head to the coolant, this can lead to heat accumulation and hot spots , which in turn can lead to cylinder head gaskets burning through and cracking of the cylinder head .
We cannot provide warranty for any consequences and effects the use of such additives may have.

2.0 Change interval, changing and testing coolant, disposal, cleaning the cooling system Change interval, changing and testing coolant
Regular checks of the coolant composition as part of Inspection I and II. As the anti-corrosion characteristics of the coolant decrease with time, the change interval of 4 years (3 years for M-Power vehicles) must be observed. The antifreeze concentration in the coolant must be checked each year before the cold season begins. The composition of the coolant must also be checked after the coolant level has been topped up. An areometer or densimeter (antifreeze tester) is required for setting and checking the concentration. It is permissible to mix various brands of the approved agents.
Ongoing technical development means that the coolant does not need to be changed on the vehicles listed below.
- E65 from 09/2003
- E60, all models since market introduction
- E85 since market introduction
- Vehicles with Service interval indicator (SIA) with petrol engines from 03/2003
- Vehicles with Service interval indicator (SIA) with diesel engines from 09/2003
- M vehicles from 09/2003
Disposal
The instructions laid down in the safety data sheets published by the manufacturers of anti-freezing and anticorrosive agents and the statutory regulations of the individual countries must be complied with.
Cleaning the cooling system
If the cooling system is soiled, e.g. by oil residue etc., it may be necessary to clean the system with a suitable cleaner. SBS


Too long, didn't read :lol:

Author:  rockstone [ Thu 07. Nov 2013 07:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Kælivökvi

thorsteinarg wrote:

Too long, didn't read :lol:


Basicly, BMW styður ekki rauðann því hann er með auka oxunar/riðmyndunarvörn, því hitinn nær ekki að flytjast nóg frá heddinu í rauða kælivökvann sem getur leitt að hitamyndun á einstökum stöðum, sem getur leitt að því að heddpakkningar brenni upp eða sprungur myndast í heddinu. Ef þú ert með bíl í ábyrgð, fellur hún úr gildi ef einhvað gerist vegna þess að vitlausir vökvar sem bmw styður ekki eru notaðir.

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