bmwkraftur.is
https://www.bmwkraftur.is/spjall/

Nurburgring trip report - 24. júní til 1. júlí
https://www.bmwkraftur.is/spjall/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31172		 Page 1 of 2
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 20:40 ]
Post subject:  Nurburgring trip report - 24. júní til 1. júlí
Síðbúin ferðasaga - ætla að fá að vera latur - nota ensku útgáfuna :oops:

==================================================

Here is a trip report from my last trip – June 24th to July 1st.

The plan was the following:
Tue 24th – Fly to Hahn, drive to Tauber in Nuremberg, pick up the car and drive to Munich.
Wed 25th – Mr. X arrives at Munich airport from Billund, maps the car and then flies back – I drive back to Tauber for final inspection before the Ring.
Thu 26th – Drive to the Ring and do some evening laps
Fri 27th – Evening laps
Sat 28th – Full day
Sun 29th – Full day
Mon 30th – Watch Pistenclub trackday and then do an evening session
Tue 1st – Fly back home to Iceland

Nice plan :)

Here is a map:
Image


Tuesday June 24th

Woke up at 4am, had packed most of the stuff the night before, finished the rest and loaded it into the Land Cruiser at 5am.
Image

On my way to the airport – streets empty since all sensible people are sleeping this early J
Image

Image

Image

Head for Keflavik where the international airport is:
Image

Image

“Lunar landscape” – no wonder the Americans came to Iceland to practice for their Lunar missions:
Image

Steam rising from the Blue Lagoon power plant / Spa:
Image

At the airport at 5:30 am:
Image

There were not many people onboard – ca. 30 :lol:
Image

Landed at sunny Hahn after a 3 hour flight.
Image

Picked up my rental and headed to Obermichelbach – Tauber HQ. Miserable car:
Image

Image

Passed some interesting trucks:
Image

Image

Arrived at Tauber at about 18 local time – RNGTOY ready.
Image

Returned the rental at Nuremberg airport and after that I was on my way driving the M3 to Munich to meet Oliver. Oliver and his girlfriend were kind enough to let me stay at their place.

Wednesday June 25th

Woke up at 8 – had some nice breakfast and then we went to Munich airport to pick up Mr. X, the master mapper. When we came back to Olivers place we started working on the M3.
Image

Here is Oliver installing the new 550cc injectors from Pure Performance – I had driven the car to Munich using the 350cc ones:
Image

Mr. X removing the fuel chip from the ECU and installing a socket for the plug used to connect to the laptop:
Image

Here the ECU is back in and now it´s not reading from the fuel chip but actually talking directly to the laptop:
Image

Image

Here Oliver and Mr. X are heading out for a mapping session – I let Oliver drive since he knows the area:
Image

Here you can see the ECU:
Image

And here some mombo jumbo that makes sense to only a few people on earth:
Image

Olivers cat – Roberto – is a very friendly cat:
Image

And an attention whore:
Image

He was born in the Canary Islands.
Image

Moved inside when it got too hot – 35° C!!!
The car was running really well – crazy power!!!
Image

Just before Mr. X left he mapped Olivers E36 328 (with a 325 intake manifold) and found some extra power that made Oliver very happy :)
Image

After this, Oliver, his girlfriend Antje and me took Mr. X back to the airport where
he just made it in time. It was now raining heavily. We went to a nice restaurant
to have dinner. After we had ordered I got an SMS from Mr. X – he was in the
plane but it was delayed for an hour or something like that!!

After dinner I started driving back north to Tauber in Obermichelbach where
Sebastian wanted to look over the car once before I went to the Ring.
He was also going to go to the Ring the following weekend with his friends. The car felt
powerful and I was looking forward to some quality driving at the Ring.

On the way there were some cars playing around on the Autobahn so I decided to
play along, turned on the video recorder – shit happens at approx. 7 minutes :
http://WWW.ONNO.IS/THORDUR/ALMENNT/EUROTOUR2008_3_JUNI/Nr_5_says_goodbye.wmv

I felt like after pushing the car a bit it was going a bit soft power wise and finally at
7:40 in the video it really lost power and was running poorly – like a cylinder was
not firing (actually starts sounding funny at 7:10).

Just FÜCKING great!!! At this moment I knew it was going to be another trip filled
with more repairs than driving.

I limped into a fuel station and popped the hood just to see if anything would be
visibly wrong. Nothing was and since I was really close to Tauber I decided to
drive slowly to their place. I had called Sebastian on the way and he was waiting
when I arrived at the shop.

We started pulling the spark plugs and nr. 5 was like this:
Image

Checked compression and cylinder nr. 5 had no compression – FÜCK!!!!

By now it was late so we decided that Sebastian would drive me to a nearby hotel
and we would start early next morning – lift the head and see what the problem was.
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 20:41 ]
Post subject: 
Thursday June 26th

I slept in the following morning and when I arrived at the shop around 11 am
they were getting ready to lift the head:
Image

Vanos & other parts:
Image

Someone was in a hurry putting this engine together!!!
Image

Headgasket ok but all valves on cylinder 5 bent :( The fragments from
the melted spark plug had managed to bend them.
Image

The fragments had also scratched the top of the cylinder:
Image

Other cylinders looked ok:
Image

Valves on cylinder 5 removed:
Image

Engine bay not looking the way I had planned for the trip!!!!
Image

The guys also removed the piston from cylinder 5 to be able to see if it
had been damaged and also the status of the rings:
Image

Some scratches on the piston but they are very shallow:

Image

Image

It also turns out the spark plug was a regular spark plug for the S50B32.
Speaking with the NGK guys it turns out these are no good for FI and did
not stand a chance in a boosted engine. So NGK Racing 9 spark plugs were ordered.
Next we needed to source 4 new valves and Sebastian phoned a friend that had some.
Both the spark plugs and valves would be delivered the next morning.

The guys started working on the head, removing all valves and polishing everything:
Image

The European Championship was in full force - Germany was doing well :)
Image

One of their customers arrived in this E39 touring with an interesting color combo:
Image

Head ready and just waiting for the new valves:
Image

Snapped one from under the car:
Image

Went back to the hotel to get some rest.
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 20:41 ]
Post subject: 
Friday June 27th

Felt confident enough that we would get the car running today that I checked
out of the hotel and went to Tauber.

Gorgeous car they were working on - they had done a bare shell restoration
on this one recently:
Image

Hasn´t been driven alot since:
Image

Fragments and scratches polished (all above the highes point for the piston rings):
Image

New valves installed:
Image

I used the chance to tape the blue Samco hose black - I hate blue silicon hoses!!!!
Image

Head gasket on:
Image

You can see the nice black Samco hose there :)
Image

Head going back on at 13:30 - so far so good:
Image

Image

Image

Lot of parts to be fitted:
Image

A customer brought this gorgeous car over:
Image

Image

At 16:40 more parts are being attached:
Image

All bearings on the crankshaft were changed:
Image

19:50 - Vanos on:
Image

21:00 - Oil pan installed:
Image

21:30 - Watercooled intake installed:
Image

22:00 - radiator goes in:
Image

23:00 - valves adjusted:
Image

All had gone well uptil now and it would be small parts that would stop us:
Image

When they started adjusting the valves it turns out that they needed a few
very thin distance plates but they did not have them thin enough. After a lot
of cursing we discussed our options.

They planned to drive to the Ring at 5 am the next morning but we could only
get the distance plates in the morning :( So it was decided that the group
would leave at 5am as planned except for Sebastian and Christian who would
finish the car in the morning.

So we called it a night and I got to sleep on the sofa at Sebastians place which
is the next building to the shop - very convenient :)
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 20:42 ]
Post subject: 
Saturday June 28th

9:30 - Valves being adjusted:
Image

10:30 - Compression test:
Image

10:44 - startup :)
Image

11:12 - Sebastian and his father Gunther do a final check before a test drive:
Image

11:20 - Sebastian goes for a test drive:
Image

11:30 - Sebastian returns happy with the drive :)
Image

12:00 - Ready to leave for the 370km drive to the Ring - Christian will be
joining me in my car and Sebatian and Claudia will drive in Sebastians E36 M3:
Image

The drive to the Ring was uneventful - just typical Autobahn drive in rather
heavy traffic. Only reved the car to ca. 4000 rpms on the way.
When arriving at the Ring I first stopped at Ringhaus to put my stuff in the
room my friend Sveinbjorn had aquired. After that I went for 3 slow laps -
again only reving to ca. 4000rpms.

After that it was time for the Trackwalk with the guys from RSR. I had
purchased 2 tickets but since Sveinbjorn had gone to Denmark to return his son
to his mom I had one extra. So I decided to invite Christian with me since he
had put in so much effort in working on my car.

Here the group is gathering af the track entrance:
Image

We got to ride in one of the infamous Alfa 75's and it was Ed driving Dales Alfa.
The other cars in the convoy were Rons M5 and a couple of busses:
Image

Image

Dale lusts after BMW´s and here he is putting the finishing touch on the BMW logo:
Image

Lots of logos:
Image

Here is Ron giving us a lecture on the Hatzenbach section:
Image

Ed and interested students:
Image

Here Ron is explaining the way through Hocheichen:
Image

Image

Image

Here we are at Aremberg. What is really surprising is how steep the track is
at this point - much more than what you experience when you are driving:
Image

Image

Image

Image

Ed wondering what the hell the marshall is doing to Dale´s Alfa:
Image

Foxhole is just as steep as you experience it!!!
Image

Image

The infamous Adenauer Forst
Image

The entrance seems steeper when you are walking:
Image

Ed remembering some offs over the grass :)
Image

Heading for the next stop at Ex-Muhle:
Image

Ex-Muhle is crazy steep:
Image

Image

Image

Nice view of the castle:
Image

The view back from Karussel:
Image

The famous bend:
Image

Image

Unusual view of the barriers :)
Image
We were very happy with the trackwalk - Ron and Dale gave alot of good tips
and Ed drove the correct line as we moved between stops. Highly recommended.

Afterwards we went for a late dinner at the Pistenklause which was great as usual.
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 20:43 ]
Post subject: 
Sunday June 29th

Woke up early and was one of the first people on the track. Now I was finally
going to be able to experience the full power of the car. Drove slowly to begin
with to get everything up to temperature and only started to push a little after
Adenauer Forst. At Bergwerk I felt the engine behaving a bit funny and going
up Kesselchen I looked in the mirror and my heart just sank.......

White smoke coming out of the exhaust :( Stopped by the 13 km marker and there
was smoke coming out of the engine bay and out of the exhaust - bloody hell!!!!

Here is the lap - I notice the smoke at approx. 8:00 in the video:
http://www.onno.is/thordur/almennt/Eurotour2008_3_Juni/29_june_lap_01.wmv

I called the Nurburgring ticket office and let them know where I was stopped.
I was completely immersed in my engine problems and forgot to go back and flag.
Fortunately Northloop member Dave in the Lotus Elise stopped and flagged
- much appreciated!!!

I double checked that the car was not leaking any fluids or oil but the white
smoke out of the exhaust did not give me a good feeling - last time I saw this
was when I craked the block & broke a piston in my M5.

Anyways - a Nurburgring staffer arrived and took down my contact details and
filled out a report. Also took my passport - I´d have to go to the office to
get it later. I got him to call a truck to transport my car.

While I was waiting for the truck Dale went slowly past in his Alfa yelling
"OOooooohhhhhh, NNNNnnnnnnooooooooooooo...." through the open window :)

Anyways – the truck arrived and we loaded the M3 on it without problems.
On our way back we saw 2 accidents, an M3 had crashed at the exit of Karussel
and there was a car/bike accident just before Brunnchen. Why don´t people
take it easy on the first lap???? At least get everyting up to temp and
see the condition of the track.

We took the car to Nurburgmotorsport and Sebastian met us there.
We put the car on a lift and the only thing we could see from the outside is
that oil was coming out at the back of the head and leaking onto the exhaust
=> smoke out of the engine bay. The reason for the smoke coming out of the
exhaust we could not determine. But I knew it was something bad.

We decided that Sebastian would take it back to Tauber.

Here is a pic from Nurburgmotorsport – Claudia, Sebastian and Ken
– M3 in the background:
Image

Front bumper removed for loading the car safely onto the trailer:
Image

Luckily the Tauber trailer was at the Ring since they had used it to transport
Christians E30 to the Ring:
Image

The car going yet again to Tauber :(
Image

After Sebastians friend left with the M3 on the trailer we went back to the
track and it was quite packed:
Image
Lots of interesting stuff on display:
Image

I got a pax lap in this 320d with Sebastians brother, German (the one in the
orange shorts). German is a race driver that has driven alot on the Ring but
not in Touristfahren. This pax lap was quite interesting – when we went on
the track a GT3 RS blasted past us through Tiergarten but as soon as we got
into the twisty parts – German was right on his bumper. The guy in the Porsche
was trying to shake him off but he just couldn´t and it was hilarious.

Finally the guy gave up after Hocheichen and indicated to the right and let us past :)
Luckily the car didn´t have “320d” on the back – at least the guy might thing
it was an M3 overtaking him :) Rest of the lap was like this
– overtaking much faster machinery.
Image

Sebastian, Christian and some friends line up for a group photo:
Image

Here my friend Sveinbjorn has returned from Denmark and is going for a pax
lap with German:
Image

Image

Image

Returned quite happy!
Image

German seemed to like Touristfahren as well:
Image

The Tauber gang went home early to catch the final game of the European
championship but me and Sveinbjörn stayed at the track. Here we are looking
at Johns nice E30 M3 engine bay:
Image

In the evening we watched the game at Ringhaus and let´s just say the better team won.
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 20:44 ]
Post subject: 
Monday June 30th

Went to Manthey Motorsport for a tour of their facilities – something that
Sveinbjorn had booked in advance.
Image

Image

Image

We were not allowed to take photos inside. The shop is quite interesting with
lots of crazy machinery being worked on – from classic cars to the latest and
greatest. Very impressive. Also they have a nice 4 wheel dyno, forgot to ask
how much it would cost to have a car dynoed. Will ask next time I´m there
– would be interesting to dyno the M3.

After drooling over Porsches at Manthey we went back to the track where
Pistenclub had a track day.
Image

I had planned to take part in the trackday but decided against it – good thing I did!!!

Lots of nice cars:
Image

Image

Something about the clothes/helmet combo was just not right :)
Image

Saw this car on our way to Adenau – can just about imagine how much it
storms the Autobahn :)
Image

Sveinbjorn washed his Cabrio before the evening Touristenfahrer session:
Image

When we got there the track day guys were packing up. Sveinbjorn had managed
to get a couple of pax laps in this ex-DTM car earlier in the day and
was quite impressed:
Image

Like those old Pcars:
Image

Very clean looking E46:
Image
Image

What is it with all these orange cars – does the color make them faster?
Image

At least some:
Image

Unfortunate color choice:
Image

Dale heading out for his lap no. 3291 of the year:
Image

Sveinbjorn coming in after a lap:
Image

This biker got noisetested and was turned away:
Image

Went for some paxlaps with Sveinbjorn:
Image

Image

After this we went back to Ringhaus and after telling Frank about yet another
failed trip because of car troubles he took pity on us and gave us some beer
– much appreciated :)

Then went to Pistenklause for dinner before going to bed early.
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 20:44 ]
Post subject: 
Tuesday July 1st

Took a taxi to Hahn & then flew home to Iceland.


So it was my 3rd failed trip of the season – I hope my next one this month
will be better. This time I am not going until the car is up and running
and tested for a few days!!!!
Author:  arnibjorn [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 22:04 ]
Post subject: 
Bömmer!!

En hvenær ferðu næst út og er bíllinn alveg ready to rock núna? :)
Author:  bimmer [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 22:23 ]
Post subject: 
arnibjorn wrote:
Bömmer!!

En hvenær ferðu næst út og er bíllinn alveg ready to rock núna? :)


Ekki búinn að panta flug en stefni á að fara út í lok mánaðarins.

Þeir eru að setja mótorinn saman og í bílinn. Læt þá tilkeyra þetta aðeins
til að fullvissa okkur um að allt sé 100%.
Author:  Alpina [ Thu 07. Aug 2008 23:09 ]
Post subject: 
Aaaaahhh stutt í brottför,,

Hlakka all svakalega til..

BARA fínar myndir
Author:  @li e30 [ Fri 08. Aug 2008 00:11 ]
Post subject: 
Gaman af þessum ferðasögum og vel framsett...

Vonandi að þetta fari betur í næsta túr.
Author:  UnnarÓ [ Fri 08. Aug 2008 00:48 ]
Post subject: 
Ég elska að lesa svona ferðasögur, leitt hvernig fór með bílinn samt :?
Author:  bebecar [ Fri 08. Aug 2008 07:51 ]
Post subject: 
bimmer wrote:
arnibjorn wrote:
Bömmer!!

En hvenær ferðu næst út og er bíllinn alveg ready to rock núna? :)


Ekki búinn að panta flug en stefni á að fara út í lok mánaðarins.

Þeir eru að setja mótorinn saman og í bílinn. Læt þá tilkeyra þetta aðeins
til að fullvissa okkur um að allt sé 100%.


Tók ekki eftir því hvort það kom fram hvað var eiginlega að vélinni - hvað var að hrjá hana?
Author:  fart [ Fri 08. Aug 2008 08:13 ]
Post subject: 
bebecar wrote:
bimmer wrote:
arnibjorn wrote:
Bömmer!!

En hvenær ferðu næst út og er bíllinn alveg ready to rock núna? :)


Ekki búinn að panta flug en stefni á að fara út í lok mánaðarins.

Þeir eru að setja mótorinn saman og í bílinn. Læt þá tilkeyra þetta aðeins
til að fullvissa okkur um að allt sé 100%.


Tók ekki eftir því hvort það kom fram hvað var eiginlega að vélinni - hvað var að hrjá hana?


Mótorinn var einfaldlega ekki búinn undir allt þetta boost þrátt fyrir nótur og staðhæfingu seljandans (Sem á að vera trúverðugur). Líklega hefur hann verið hözlaður líka.

s.s.

Stock þjappa
Stock kerti
= sudden death við boost.

Það sem mér finnst furðulegast er að menn skildu ekki taka eftir því að kertin væru stock, allvega skrúfa kertin úr og skoða, og prufa þá að þjöppumæla í leiðinni. Ég er reyndar ekki búinn að þjöppumæla minn s.s. en mér var strax ráðlagt að fara í kaldari kerti af Xmanninum.
Author:  bebecar [ Fri 08. Aug 2008 09:05 ]
Post subject: 
fart wrote:
bebecar wrote:
bimmer wrote:
arnibjorn wrote:
Bömmer!!

En hvenær ferðu næst út og er bíllinn alveg ready to rock núna? :)


Ekki búinn að panta flug en stefni á að fara út í lok mánaðarins.

Þeir eru að setja mótorinn saman og í bílinn. Læt þá tilkeyra þetta aðeins
til að fullvissa okkur um að allt sé 100%.


Tók ekki eftir því hvort það kom fram hvað var eiginlega að vélinni - hvað var að hrjá hana?


Mótorinn var einfaldlega ekki búinn undir allt þetta boost þrátt fyrir nótur og staðhæfingu seljandans (Sem á að vera trúverðugur). Líklega hefur hann verið hözlaður líka.

s.s.

Stock þjappa
Stock kerti
= sudden death við boost.

Það sem mér finnst furðulegast er að menn skildu ekki taka eftir því að kertin væru stock, allvega skrúfa kertin úr og skoða, og prufa þá að þjöppumæla í leiðinni. Ég er reyndar ekki búinn að þjöppumæla minn s.s. en mér var strax ráðlagt að fara í kaldari kerti af Xmanninum.


En kerta vandamálið var úr sögunni eftir fyrri viðgerðina... og svo farið aftur af stað með bílinn og svo bara hvítur reykur....

Hvað gerðist í seinna skiptið? Var það þjappan sem var vandamálið miðað við stock internals?

Þetta er búin að vera skelfilegur hausverkur örugglega fyrir Þórð. Fær mann alvarlega til að hugleiða hvort það sé ekki skárri kostur að leita bara að áreiðanleika (hvernig sem menn fara svosem að því við notkun sem þessa :lol: ).

Svona ef vera kynni að einhverjir feti í fótsporin með brautar leiktæki....
Page 1 of 2 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/